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  New Light! - Old bulb was getting dim.

  by The_Doctor10 in

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  'this old bulb is about to go out, let's just unscrew this old light, screw this fresh one in, new light, we have new light!'.

  it's always bugged me how you only see big doctrinal changes, "new light," happen right around the same time the "old light," is about to blow out.. this "over-lapping generation," teaching is the perfect example, "old light" was about to be extinguished as being impossible to maintain, "new light brothers, we have new light!

  " and everyone is amazed, when all it is is a stop-gap fix.. "new light," is synonymous with, "buying time.

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  Yes Faye, this is the classic new light. How could you take the 144k number literally and find yourself with 150k believers all going heavenwards at death let alone all the supposed faithful in antiquity?

  New light is just a miserable confidence trick where the tricksters have to think on their feet because the dim-witted believers will believe anything they are told so long as it is faintly plausible. One hundred and fifty thousand JWs was going to get the leadership busted so with sleight of hand a new idea would distract them from the contradiction.

  Actually the idea of the “little flock” was stolen by the Judge from the pen of another Bible Student called Alexander Freytag who opposed Rutherford on the death of Russell and who was consequently banished from the Watchtower. He began his own Russellite based adventist religion which is still active in mainland Europe today. It prescribed clean living, not smoking, vegetarianism and pure air breathing in anticipation of life in a new world. Sigh!
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  My introduction and confession

  by elderINewton in

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  2. friends

  well another big bad elder here just wanting to say sorry.. i'm sorry that so many were treated like crap, and shown that god's love is not to be found around jehovah's witnesses.

  i'm sorry that inadvertently i've likely taught many to judge and as such see that racism permeates every corner of the jw world, else why else would someone be of the world, or even inactive.

  i'm sorry i sat in on a jc, and voted to df.

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  Half banana

  Greetings and welcome to the real world Newton.(Isaac Newton was a genius but not actually a very pleasant individual to have met!) This stupid old religion truly messes with the mind.Living an honest life directed by common sense and proper information is infinitely better than the tripe the Watchtower produced. So glad for you that the other half can see it too.

  Do tell us more on how you are coping...
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  Master piece!

  by coalize in

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  2. bible

  what we can read in the wt 10/15/2015... they have really no shame!.

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  What wise words the Watchtower want to encourage ”If in doubt throw it out”. So all doubting JWs are you listening? If you have any doubts about the JW organisation (and the majority do so) then throw THEM out!
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  Possible reasons why the WTBTS is more irrelevant than ever

  by JakeM2012 in

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  2. friends

  this short video has interesting statistics (without any citations or references available) i.e.

  "there are 5.9 billion searches on google",...."to whom were these questions asked bg (before google)?".

  "time it took to reach a market audience of 50 million?

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  Half banana

  Good information Jake, statistically they are losing in the God market.

  Punky you’re right... it’s not god’s will, it’s spiritual pig-swill.

  With the information age flooding realities on to our screens, the JW feeding trough will be as attractive as pig food and only blind beggars who have lost their sense of smell and taste will ever want go there. (even the slimy texture is off-putting!)
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  Annual JW Pride Day

  by Esse quam videri in

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  what would be jw's reaction if the governing body, in all seriousness, announced a new jw pride day to be celebrated in the congregation every year?.

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  What about an annual JW Gay Pride day?
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  Pay now - Live later. The True Price of the Christian Reward.

  by fulltimestudent in

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  2. tech-support

  i apologise for not being able to refrain from making a joke out of this thread, but the topic is rather humourous.. i've just bought peter brown's (the illustrious historian) latest book, "the ransom of the soul - afterlife and wealth in early western christianity," and am in the process of reading it.

  its quite amazing how soon money entered into the early churches relationship with individual christians,.

  may i recommend it for those who may still harbour illusions about jesus and his church.

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  Thanks for information FTS. Money and power always appear together in human institutions....and that is why the faithful and discreet slave illustration was relevant in the early church; to keep the punters coming to the religion which could afford to give them a meal.
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  Looking Back In Retrospect To 1975...

  by titch in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  greetings, folks: so, it's been 40 years since 1975. and, if you were actively involved with the witnesses back then, the mindset of many was, that by early autumn of 1975, it would mark the anniversary of 6000 years of human existence.

  and, the hope was then, that it would mark the start of the 1000-year of christ, from the heavenly realm.

  but, looking back now, 40 years ago, in june of 1975, only 3 more months remained until early autumn.

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  And if the Bible has nothing meaningful to say, imagine how utterly meaningless and irrelevant the words of the Watchtower Society are!

  Yes Splash at that meeting in 1968 they must have been euphoric...experiencing an artificial “high” in their religious delusion that Big J was using only them and would not fail them in their 1975 date doctrines. Fulfilment at last!

  Of course it failed, it’s just a religious scam.

  The tools of the Watchtower cult are hype and promises, nothing more... and a whopping load of nothing is all they will ever grant.

  “Everlasting life in paradise,” if the offer sounds too good to be true; it is too good to be true.
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  Looking Back In Retrospect To 1975...

  by titch in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  greetings, folks: so, it's been 40 years since 1975. and, if you were actively involved with the witnesses back then, the mindset of many was, that by early autumn of 1975, it would mark the anniversary of 6000 years of human existence.

  and, the hope was then, that it would mark the start of the 1000-year of christ, from the heavenly realm.

  but, looking back now, 40 years ago, in june of 1975, only 3 more months remained until early autumn.

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  Half banana

  Fisherman, the greatest mistake we all made was to imagine that the Bible had something original to say.
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  TTATT in a can

  by ILoveTTATT in

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  2. friends

  so... i have been working on an excel spreadsheet that has "ttatt in a can"... i have it both in spanish and in english.

  here's a preview:.

  category / year1879188018901891name?bible studentsbible students "time of the end" starts in the year?17991799 "parousia" (presence)?18741874 jesus enthroned?18781878 end of the harvest?19141914 earthly resurrection?

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  Half banana

  Thank you I loveTTATT and Splash, your researches are much more important than the flip-flopping doctrines they record.

  What they say is that any interpretation of the Bible contains nothing certain on which we can base beliefs.

  The whole of the NT was about getting a saviour cult established in a market already saturated in saviours. As an example of how it must have been: Did Christ have a beard or not (who cares!) well if you were talking up your new saviour cult two thousand years ago to a Roman, then your Jesus saviour would not have a beard since the then familiar Mithras was the young unshaven Good Shepherd, god-man saviour. The same with the recent past; in the fifties beards were still symbols of the great unwashed (Except for Van Amberg, GB member and treasurer who had a beard until his death in 1947ish). So the society looked for and found reasons not to depict JC with a hairy chin. When their reasoning looked thin, they changed to a hirsute Jesus.

  There is one summary point which strikes me reading these lists of official doctrinal drivel, it is this: how can a committee of men in New York sit down at a table and determine among themselves what will be eternal truths which they will publish and foist on their ignorant and submissive flock?... And you must believe it on penalty of excommunication! What a charade!
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  Geoffrey Jackson compares waiting for Armageddon to waiting for Brazil to score a goal against Argentina!

  by GodZoo in

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  2. beliefs

  wtf!https://vid.me/8tuy

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  Half banana

  Good point Leaks, They would identify with F.I.F.A. since both governing bodies clearly have no conscience, think they are on a gravy train to glory and have no one to veto or investigate their actions. Until now...